Comments on: up or down the social ladder? http://blacksissyblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/up-or-down-the-social-ladder/ my online journal Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:42:16 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: black sissy http://blacksissyblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/up-or-down-the-social-ladder/#comment-23 black sissy Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:34:00 +0000 http://blacksissyblog.wordpress.com/?p=199#comment-23 Thank you for the good thoughts and for the challenge to rethink my position. I agree that we as a race do have issues around sexuality and there is a racial component to those issues too. More than anything else you've reminded me of something that i'd all but forgotten. I'll write about that in a seperate post today. It deeply saddens me to see the gender wars in Black America. In the past we would come together as a people. I was listening to some old songs (from the 1960s, 1950's and 1940's) and i was amazed and pleased at the references i hear in them as black men sing to black women about their beauty (full round and proud) and black women sing to black men about their handsomeness (strong passionate and tender). Oh for the grace of a song like "Afro-Blue." Thank you for the good thoughts and for the challenge to rethink my position. I agree that we as a race do have issues around sexuality and there is a racial component to those issues too.

More than anything else you’ve reminded me of something that i’d all but forgotten. I’ll write about that in a seperate post today.

It deeply saddens me to see the gender wars in Black America. In the past we would come together as a people. I was listening to some old songs (from the 1960s, 1950’s and 1940’s) and i was amazed and pleased at the references i hear in them as black men sing to black women about their beauty (full round and proud) and black women sing to black men about their handsomeness (strong passionate and tender). Oh for the grace of a song like “Afro-Blue.”

]]> By: Eric Daniels http://blacksissyblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/19/up-or-down-the-social-ladder/#comment-22 Eric Daniels Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:41:22 +0000 http://blacksissyblog.wordpress.com/?p=199#comment-22 I would have to disagree with you on that account, I think today's Black Woman has it easier in terms of acceptance and access to the American marketplace than Black Men do. There has been a gender war to me in the last 35 years between BW and BM and Black Women through means of education and government intervention has won that battle. I think with the number of IR relationships between BW and WM and with Obama as President there will be new standards for BM which is not a bad thing but he is Biracial and there will be a black male backlash on his policies if the situation does not improve for BM in this country outside of empty symbolism. I have read your posts and agree that there is a sexuality problem in Black America, when I was younger many BM i knew teased sissies endlessly and cruelly, but you would see them in private either having sex or a "secret realtionship" until the kids found out and humilated the dude into transferring to another school. And that's what happened to a friend of mine,in my opinion Black Maculinity is a 20th invention created by whites and cultivated in the modern by Black Men themselves as false pride. In the end we all lose and that's why I think our realtionships in the black community are so damaged whether gay or staright because we traded in one set of racial/sexual hangups for another because the third rail (our black humanity) was too hard to attain in a society who couldn't afford nor could let go of the pathology. like your blog and keep writing I would have to disagree with you on that account, I think today’s Black Woman has it easier in terms of acceptance and access to the American marketplace than Black Men do. There has been a gender war to me in the last 35 years between BW and BM and Black Women through means of education and government intervention has won that battle.

I think with the number of IR relationships between BW and WM and with Obama as President there will be new standards for BM which is not a bad thing but he is Biracial and there will be a black male backlash on his policies if the situation does not improve for BM in this country outside of empty symbolism.

I have read your posts and agree that there is a sexuality problem in Black America, when I was younger many BM i knew teased sissies endlessly and cruelly, but you would see them in private either having sex or a “secret realtionship” until the kids found out and humilated the dude into transferring to another school. And that’s what happened to a friend of mine,in my opinion Black Maculinity is a 20th invention created by whites and cultivated in the modern by Black Men themselves as false pride.

In the end we all lose and that’s why I think our realtionships in the black community are so damaged whether gay or staright because we traded in one set of racial/sexual hangups for another because the third rail (our black humanity) was too hard to attain in a society who couldn’t afford nor could let go of the pathology.

like your blog and keep writing

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